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« Thread started on: Apr 9th, 2017, 10:04am »

While searching for possible minshuku to stay and noticing the difference in the accomodation they offer, I started asking myself if a shower is always available or not.

So far it has never been explicitly mentioned, so I wonder if it is a "always available" or a "never available".

what is your experience?
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 10th, 2017, 3:56pm »

on Apr 9th, 2017, 10:04am, FlyingDutch wrote:
While searching for possible minshuku to stay and noticing the difference in the accomodation they offer, I started asking myself if a shower is always available or not.

So far it has never been explicitly mentioned, so I wonder if it is a "always available" or a "never available".

what is your experience?


A shower will "always" be available in standard paid lodging (minshuku, ryokan, hotel), as a part of their bathing facilities.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 10th, 2017, 6:53pm »

You likely won't have one in your room, but there will be one available, but it will probably be a Japanese style shower where you have to sit, and it will probably also be public. There will also be a bath. I do know of one Minshuku that doesn't have bathing facilities which is Sudachi-kan after Temple 12, but they drive you to Kamiyama onsen and give you an entry ticket as part of your stay. Kamiyama onsen is amazing, by the way.

Japanese people bathe at night, so some baths may only be open at night, and/or have specific hours for men and women.

Business hotels usually have more western showers in each room and may have a public bath in addition.

Edit: Sudachi-Kan is after temple 12.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 11th, 2017, 04:47am »

Sudachi-kan does have a shower, but it's very, very basic and (at least when I went in March) cold (hot water, yes, but no room heater). I could not go to the onsen due to female problems so they let me use their shower instead. I would highly suggest taking the onsen suggestion.
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 11th, 2017, 07:19am »

on Apr 11th, 2017, 04:47am, kotoko wrote:
Sudachi-kan does have a shower, but it's very, very basic and (at least when I went in March) cold (hot water, yes, but no room heater).


Ah, I see. I hope you get to try the onsen in the future.

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I want to add that bathing is very accessible on the pilgrimage even to campers. There are onsen all along the route, many offering discounts to pilgrims. Many hotels and minshuku with large baths allow non-guests to use them for a small fee. Internet cafes in the cities often have showers, and even some of the free lodgings have bathing facilities. There's also a few free footbaths in public places.


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« Reply #5 on: May 24th, 2017, 3:46pm »

Minshuku: always a shower and o-furo, always soap and shampoo and towels, almost always a toothbrush, yukata and laundry.
Business hotels: all of the above plus always toothbrush and yukata or pajamas (!).
If you're just planning on staying at minshuku and hotels, you can leave all that stuff out of your pack.
Zenkonyado and tsuyado: variable. BYO everything, just in case.
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 13th, 2017, 11:01pm »

on Nov 13th, 2017, 10:37pm, Alexferguson wrote:
You likely won't have one in your room, yet there will be one accessible, yet it will most likely be a Japanese style shower where you need to sit, and it will presumably additionally be open. There will likewise be a shower. *spam link* I do know about one Minshuku that doesn't have showering offices which are Sudachi-kan after Temple 12, however, they drive you to Kamiyama onsen and give you a passage ticket as a component of your remain.

*Spam image with link*


That sure looks like exactly what I said, slightly reworded, and with irrelevant spam added in. I'd be beyond happy to volunteer as an assistant anti-spam admin for this site.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 15th, 2017, 11:19pm »

on Nov 13th, 2017, 11:01pm, slc wrote:
That sure looks like exactly what I said, slightly reworded, and with irrelevant spam added in. I'd be beyond happy to volunteer as an assistant anti-spam admin for this site.


Yeah bots have taken annoying habit of copying people's post and adding spam link. Alas this forum attracts lots of spam bots sad

Anti-spam admin/mod would be nice but the forum platform seems rather old. Wonder if it even allows admin to give less-comprehensive admin rights to others or would only way for others to help there be for admin give basically full admin rights? Which admin might understandably be wary of doing.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 16th, 2017, 12:52am »

This board will allow adding a moderator who can delete posts and ban users. That alone is a lot of trust to put into somebody, but you need that much access to kill the spam. I can demonstrate that I've completed the Shikoku Pilgrimage, and have worked as a 'moderator' of sorts for a fortune 500 company. I have no interest in moderating anybody other than the spam-bots. I don't want to see them drown out the legitimate discussion. It's just an offer to help.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 16th, 2017, 02:07am »

on Nov 16th, 2017, 12:52am, slc wrote:
This board will allow adding a moderator who can delete posts and ban users. That alone is a lot of trust to put into somebody, but you need that much access to kill the spam. I can demonstrate that I've completed the Shikoku Pilgrimage, and have worked as a 'moderator' of sorts for a fortune 500 company. I have no interest in moderating anybody other than the spam-bots. I don't want to see them drown out the legitimate discussion. It's just an offer to help.


Well if the forum software allows for it that would be nice. Maybe send PM to admin so he might notice it easier. Would certainly be nice! Wouldn't mind taking the job myself either(I hate spammers) but whom admin feels like trusting with job is of course up to him.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 19th, 2017, 12:50am »

It would also be possible to add more than one moderator. I'll probably message the administrator if there's no response in a few days.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 30th, 2017, 10:23am »

Got the PM. Thanks. Have just spent about 30 minutes cleaning out some of the spam and deleting the users. You are right, offering admin rights to someone I don't know, isn't always a wise idea. How do you propose to prove you've done the Henro? And that proving that would mean you're completely trustworthy?

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« Reply #12 on: Nov 30th, 2017, 6:35pm »

I can prove I've done the henro by:

Pointing to my blog of the pilgrimage
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/A1h5RB

Pointing to my personal website which includes pictures of me at henro sites (under photos)
http://lukeclayton.net

I can prove to you I am this person by PMing you a PayPal transcation ID for my purchase of Shikoku Japan 88 Route Guide and Visiting The Sacred Sites of Kukai from you in Sept 2015.

I can send a photograph of myself holding my stamped nokyocho open to any page(s) of your choice (I have all stamps except Mt. Koya)

I can point out that a custom printed osamefuda including my name, city and email address is pasted on the wall inside the new extremely nice henro hut very close to temple 82.

As for proving I am completely trustworthy, that is of course impossible. I can assure you that I greatly appreciate this resource and only want to help it. I can tell you that I do not like censoring people one bit and would only be willing to delete obvious spam. I can give you my telephone number and you can call me to get a better idea of my character. I'm unsure what I could do beyond that but would be willing to go along with any ideas you might have.

Let me know if you'd like me to move forward with these steps.

Thanks,
Luke

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« Reply #13 on: Nov 30th, 2017, 11:07pm »

on Nov 30th, 2017, 10:23am, Shikoku Henro Trail wrote:
Got the PM. Thanks. Have just spent about 30 minutes cleaning out some of the spam and deleting the users.


Thanks for the effort! That's 30 minutes that I'm sure could have been spent better without those cursed spammer bots.

Efforts spent appreciated.

And for slc thanks for the link to the blog. Seems I have missed it before.
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 5th, 2017, 08:24am »

smiley

Luke, I certainly don't doubt your credentials as a henro, but think I am going to ask someone I've known for a long time to help out instead. He's been on the forum since it started, I think, and goes by the name HenroDon.

If I decide I need more help, I will get back in touch with you. My concern, just so you know, isn't whether or not you will be too censorious, but whether it is right for me to give an unknown person access to every members personal email addresses. I'm really touchy about that after a bot stole all the addresses off the web site about 6 years ago and spammed all of them.

I do appreciate and thank you for the offer.

Dave
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